Sports Friday Interview: Frank Vargas, Stetson White and Christopher Whitten – Local Billiards League

Frank Vargas, Stetson White and Christopher Whitten stepped into the SVI Radio studio to talk about the local billiards league in Star Valley and around the state of Wyoming.
(0:00) Duking Dow with you in studio this morning (0:02) and talking billiards with our local pool team this morning. (0:07) And in studio today is Frank Vargas, (0:09) Detson White, and Christopher Witten. (0:11) Guys, appreciate you all stepping in studio.
(0:14) Frank, we’ll start with you because, well, (0:16) you’re the one that set this whole thing up with us, (0:17) so appreciate you doing that. (0:19) I think myself included, me and Dowell were thinking, (0:23) oh, we didn’t know we had like an official league (0:26) of billiards and pool, and talking to you guys, (0:28) it’s kind of a big deal, so maybe just tell us (0:32) what this is and the league and how it all works, (0:35) who’s all involved? (0:36) Well, so pool has always been a big thing around here, (0:40) but getting people to come out to play (0:42) was the biggest thing. (0:44) We have a pretty good amount of players right now, (0:46) I don’t know, right around 30 or 37 or something like that, (0:49) and they’re all registered.
(0:51) We are all nationally registered players (0:53) through the Billiard Congress of America. (0:55) They, for short, they call it the BCA League. (0:59) And we hold it here at Colters Lodge right now.
(1:02) They’re a three-man team, so we have a smaller group. (1:06) The teams are usually typically about four men. (1:10) Kimmerer has a pretty good size league there.
(1:15) They’ve got multiple teams. (1:17) We have eight or nine teams here, (1:22) and everybody gets rated, everybody gets ranked, (1:25) they go into according groups. (1:27) If they decide to go play, some of them get invited to play.
(1:33) Pool has always been a big thing around here, (1:35) but getting the people who love to play pool (1:37) is probably, was probably the challenge. (1:40) It’s interesting, you just said it’s always been a big deal, (1:43) and I’m thinking to myself, I’m out of the loop, apparently. (1:47) So kind of give me an idea of how you guys got into this (1:51) and how it’s grown and maybe your experience (1:55) with it from maybe early picking it up (1:58) to where you are now.
(2:00) Well, so I started playing pool myself when I was nine. (2:03) My mom and dad were pool players. (2:04) My dad was in the military for 30 years, (2:06) so naturally, those guys, the only things they did (2:09) were drink and play pool.
(2:11) And so I started playing pool at a young age. (2:15) It was a really good way for me to focus on something. (2:21) So when I moved here, I didn’t realize (2:23) that there was an in-house tournament that happened.
(2:28) And then I got invited to play it one day, (2:31) and I played for a couple of years. (2:33) Then I ended up being the one who took over (2:36) helping to host and organize it. (2:39) And then Stetson White here, the last few years, (2:42) has helped me do that for our in-house eight balls.
(2:46) And then we created the in-house nine ball tournament. (2:49) And so we just, anybody who wants to come play, (2:52) essentially, is what I’m the one who posts for it (2:54) on Misty’s List, the sell sites, anything like that. (2:58) So I do the advertising for it.
(3:01) Well, Stetson, let’s loop you into this. (3:03) Sounds like you’ve been part of the organization. (3:06) So just locally, when you guys have a tournament, (3:09) how does all that work? (3:11) And I mean, how many people do you usually have (3:13) participate in something like that? (3:14) Yeah, so it’s typically, sorry.
(3:22) Around 1, 1.30, we’ll invite anyone who wants to play. (3:26) Anyone at any level can come in, (3:28) and they pay us a $10 fee. (3:31) And then we build a bracket, double elimination.
(3:33) They can come in. (3:35) And then we pay out the top three placings. (3:39) First, second, and third wall win a cash prize.
(3:42) Throughout the year, we collect points for places. (3:45) And then it comes down to, at the very end of the year, (3:48) we have pool cues that we give out (3:50) to first, second, and third prize winners (3:52) who have, over the whole season, (3:55) collected the most amount of points. (3:58) And then we also have the cash prize (4:00) at the end of the season.
(4:01) It’s usually anywhere up to $700, (4:04) depending on how many players. (4:06) And we average probably about 20 players every Sunday. (4:09) Kind of walk us through an event.
(4:12) How long is an event? (4:16) How long is a match? (4:17) I’m totally kind of new at this. (4:21) Kind of give me an idea of how that works. (4:22) So it all depends on the player’s skill levels.
(4:26) For example, if you got me and Frank (4:27) playing with each other, (4:29) he’s taught me so much in the last couple years (4:31) that I’ve probably advanced a lot faster (4:34) than most people would think. (4:36) But I’m still not to his level. (4:37) The guy’s ranked pretty high.
(4:39) I’m still pretty low. (4:40) But I know what I’m doing because of Frank. (4:43) And so if we play, if it’s not a tricky game, (4:45) it’s a straightforward game, (4:46) we could be done in anywhere from two minutes.
(4:50) Two minutes? (4:51) Oh yeah, our games are… (4:53) And depending, as you stated, (4:54) depending on the level of the players. (4:56) I mean, really high level players (4:58) will typically play a lot of safeties on each other (5:00) till they can get a run out on the table. (5:02) And those games last a long time.
(5:05) I mean, a two, three minute game (5:07) can last anywhere 10, 20. (5:09) We’ve seen games last 30 or so minutes. (5:14) The national rating thing is pretty big.
(5:16) And that’s on Saturdays (5:19) where we just came back from our state tournament. (5:24) That’s where we get rated and everything like that. (5:26) And you’re open to be able (5:29) to go to those particular tournaments.
(5:32) Our in-house and our Saturday tournaments, (5:34) Sundays and Saturdays are different. (5:37) The Sundays are what we do for fun. (5:40) And then the Saturdays are what we do (5:43) to get people rated to be able (5:45) to play those bigger tournaments, (5:47) to win the bigger money, (5:48) to get invited to the invitationals (5:51) and stuff like that.
(5:53) Excellent. (5:53) So Christopher, let’s loop you in on this conversation. (5:56) You’re looking a little comfortable over there.
(5:58) I gotta get you speaking some stuff. (5:59) No, tell us about your involvement (6:02) and what you’ve enjoyed about being in this league (6:04) and why you do it. (6:05) I’ve been involved since the beginning (6:07) of the in-house tournament here at Colters.
(6:09) I’ve lived in town about 10 years now (6:11) and met Frank through the beginning of the tournaments. (6:13) And then you have me, Frank, Stetson. (6:17) We’ve progressed over the few years (6:19) to finally got everybody to be registered (6:21) and sanctioned to play.
(6:23) And like Frank’s saying, (6:23) the bigger tournaments out of town (6:25) and different states and different levels. (6:28) My game since starting has improved quite a bit. (6:32) It’s a fun thing, an activity to keep everybody (6:35) out of trouble and the best they can.
(6:38) Where would you guys like to see things go? (6:43) From where it is now, one year from now, (6:46) two years from now, five years from now, (6:48) where would you like to see this go (6:49) in the region, in the area? (6:51) We want to have it in Vegas. (6:54) That’s our goal. (6:54) We want to go to Vegas to play the big national tournaments.
(6:59) That’s our goals. (7:00) Okay, and how do you get there? (7:02) What has to take place for that to happen? (7:03) A lot more games, a lot more rankings, (7:06) a lot more tournaments. (7:07) We need bigger groups.
(7:09) We need more people to come out and play. (7:11) So, Frank, you guys just had a big, (7:13) it was a state event, right? (7:16) Correct, it was the Jenkins Gaming (7:17) end of the year state event. (7:20) And how’d you guys do? (7:21) How’d you perform? (7:22) Well, so, not so well in the singles.
(7:25) I mean, us as a group, we typically go (7:28) for the team events, but we play the singles. (7:31) And we didn’t do very well in the singles. (7:33) There’s so many more people in the singles.
(7:35) But the team event, we took top six teams in the state. (7:41) We had the best scoring average of any team there. (7:45) And there were a huge amount of teams in this division.
(7:51) We, and we did, I mean, we did so well (7:54) that there were teams, teams are gonna remember (7:58) who we are, for sure. (7:59) That’s how well we did, so. (8:02) So, you talk about wanting to grow it (8:04) and you need more players, you need more of this.
(8:06) Let’s say someone’s listening to this (8:07) and they’re like, I kinda wanna get involved. (8:10) Maybe they’re a little intimidated (8:11) to take that first step. (8:14) How do you recommend they go about getting involved (8:17) and maybe being part of this? (8:18) Well, so, our billiard Congress of America, (8:22) our BCA season is over right now.
(8:25) And it starts back up in about October, November. (8:28) Our in-house nine ball is still going. (8:30) We have about three or four more weeks.
(8:32) And that starts at about one o’clock on Sundays. (8:36) And if anybody at any skill level, (8:38) it’s an open tournament for anybody. (8:41) If anybody wants to come out and get the feel (8:43) and see how we go through the motions (8:45) and see the type of players that we have, (8:48) anybody is welcome to come.
(8:51) And on any given day, anybody can win anything. (8:55) I mean, we have, as Stetson stated, (8:58) we have a first, second, third place cash payout. (9:00) We do an end of the year prize pot.
(9:03) And we give a first, second, and third place pull cue out (9:06) to the first, second, and third place winners. (9:09) Well, just speaking with Chris and Stetson as well, (9:14) sounds like, I mean, skill level is not an issue. (9:17) I mean, whether you’re highly experienced (9:19) or this is your first time ever, (9:20) you guys are willing to work with them, right? (9:23) Yeah, we have some pretty good players.
(9:27) Even our lower level players, (9:30) I’ve seen them take home the prize money (9:34) at the end of the day on Sundays, you know? (9:36) So, honestly, pull is one of those games (9:39) where it’s like a fight. (9:41) Whoever came to play that day is gonna take it home. (9:46) There’s leagues also.
(9:47) I mean, we’re talking specifically at Colters, (9:49) where you guys are at, but what if someone, (9:51) maybe you mentioned in Southern Lincoln County, (9:53) listening to this in Kemmerer, (9:54) how does someone get involved? (9:56) Is there a, does the statewide organization (9:58) have a website or a social presence? (10:01) Yes, they do. (10:02) So, JenkinsGaming.net, JenkinsMusic.net (10:06) is the website that you would go to, (10:09) and you can sign up for your BCA Pool League (10:11) anywhere near you. (10:13) Perfect.
(10:13) In studio this morning, (10:14) talking about the Billiards League, (10:16) that’s Frank Vargas, Stetson White, Christopher Witten. (10:19) Guys, appreciate your time and for informing us (10:22) on all this that’s happening. (10:23) So, anything we missed that you think (10:25) is worth mentioning today? (10:26) Well, we just wanna thank all of our sponsors today.
(10:30) They helped us get to where we needed to go. (10:33) I mean, you have people like Ponderosa One, (10:34) George Montelongo, Battlesons, Dad’s Steakhouse, Terry. (10:41) I mean, we have so many different sponsors.
(10:44) We had 12 this year. (10:45) Crystal Fredrickson was one of our sponsors. (10:47) So, we appreciate every single one of you, (10:49) and without you guys, we couldn’t have made that happen.
(10:51) So, thank you. (10:52) Love it. (10:53) So, again, to get involved, JenkinsMusic.net (10:55) is the website, JenkinsMusic.net. (10:58) In studio, Frank Vargas, Stetson White, (11:00) and Christopher Witten.
(11:01) It’s all part of First Bank of Wyoming Sports Friday.





